waiting for superman documentary transcript
On this Wikipedia the language links are at the top of the page across from the article title. SCARBOROUGH: All right. What happened there? This film follows five children and documents them to see what their lives and schools are like. I want to hear what some of those steps are, specific ones. BRZEZINSKI: Nakia, thank you. BRZEZINSKI: You can hear the distrust here. SCARBOROUGH: Hes like Chuck Yager of the classroom. I want to be a doctor and I want to be a veterinarian. GUGGENHEIM: Those parents don't care. They'll talk about this issue. SCARBOROUGH: You also told me that there was a split in the civil rights community, that older members of the civil rights community sometimes fought younger members of the civil rights community who were reformers. But I do think though Davis even though we may disagree there wasn't a public school or a public school teacher that was pictured in this film, people have done amazing jobs. 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Coming up, right after we're finished here, MSNBC will re-air the two-hour town hall. SCARBOROUGH: Last in, first out. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The space with the Xs is for all of the fifth grade students moving into the sixth grade for next year. /Type /Page How do you explain that to a child? >> stream SCARBOROUGH: We really had. How do you get past that? [8], Roger Ebert gave the film 3.5 stars out of 4 and wrote, "What struck me most of all was Geoffrey Canada's confidence that a charter school run on his model can make virtually any first-grader a high school graduate who's accepted to college. The film shows how Geoffrey Canadas solution to this problem was to create charter schools that would give children and their parents more options within the public school system and would hopefully raise academic performance, decrease dropout rates, andincrease the number of students who attend college. GUGGENHEIM: And fight for these kids. But Id like -- I think there is a disconnect here that John Legend talks about. >> RHEE: I'm just wondering, if the AFT was putting a million dollars into mayoral campaigns all across the country just based on who the teachers liked, I would buy that argument. It seems to me, Davis, that you done get -- teachers don't get evaluated like every other business. So we're going to differentiate and we're going to recognize and reward the highest performing teachers and we're going to look at the lowest performing teachers and we're going to remove them from the system. And that means get involved. Why were you frightened to send her to school. And I think seeing what's possible in this film is very inspiring. I think he actually wants to do the right thing. Or it can't be done. /ArtBox [ 0 0 595.27600 841.89000 ] When I see from my own experience as a school teach are for six years when evaluations didn't work and less than 20 percent of them think that evaluations work right now. Gripping, heartbreaking, and ultimately hopeful, Waiting for Superman is an impassioned indictment of the American school system from An Inconvenient Truth >> But we need to have real evaluation systems, which is what the union has been focused on, so that teachers are really judged fairly. SCARBOROUGH: Really quickly. I get to spend a lot of time with the kids. But do you think Michelle Rhee was trying to improve the performance of the teachers in her district, was she trying to make the schools better? People couldn't believe you could do it. As part of lifting the cap they wanted to make sure that there was accountability for everyone. If you look at what the Kipp schools have done or the uncommon schools, they've been able to replicate this model over and over. RHEE: You know what, heres the thing. You said, you still cry every time you see it. /Resources << /GS0 18 0 R SCARBOROUGH: 15 seconds. MICHELLE RHEE, CHANCELLOR, D.C. PUBLIC SCHOOLS: Well, I think you should probably ask the union folks that question. So people keep talking about accountability just in terms of firing teachers but what I think people need to understand is how accountability allows you to unleash teacher passion by setting on fire all the teachers in the school because you're allowed to give them the freedom to teach the way they see fit. Why is that? And I was hurt. /Filter /FlateDecode I said I don't want to go up. I think that we've all I mean Davis said it when he said he passed three public schools. BRZEZINSKI: How do we get to what you're saying, though? /CropBox [ 0 0 595.27600 841.89000 ] The good guys/heroes are low-income American parents, hoping to provide a good education for their children. << You said OK we're not going to penalize bad teachers. Take a look. Ravitch says that a study by Stanford University economist Margaret Raymond of 5000 charter schools found that only 17% are superior in math test performance to a matched public school, and many perform badly, casting doubt on the film's claim that privately managed charter schools are the solution to bad public schools. /Font << Where you tried to focus on good teachers in Washington. WebFrom Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. In fact you come off quite badly. Like around here, I mean, I want my kids to have better than what I had. WEINGARTEN: Michelle and I may disagree on the particulars of this, but there are about 50 or 60 districts that are using the proposal that we made and ultimately we think if we do that, if we fix teacher evaluations so it's about teacher development and evaluation, we can fix this problem. "Waiting for Superman" ( Superman & Lois), an episode of Superman & Lois. That's amazing. WebTRANSCRIPT: WAITING FOR SUPERMAN PANEL DISCUSSION WITH: NBC'S JOE SCARBOROUGH; NBC'S MIKA BRZEZINSKI;DAVIS GUGGENHEIM, DIRECTOR, The film criticizes the American public education system by following several students as they strive to be accepted into competitive charter schools such as KIPP LA Schools, Harlem Success Academy and Summit Preparatory Charter High School. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Next year, Anthonys class will move up to junior high. The most influential scene during this segment is when one of the students, Bianca, and her mother, Nakia, wait for Biancas name to be called as the lottery nears the end. There are answers and people want to say the answer is this. A reminder for everyone, coming up right after this program, MSNBC will re-air that teacher town hall that was hosted by Brian Williams, that's from 9:00 to 11:00 Eastern Time, right here on MSNBC. We spruced up -- modernized the building. BRZEZINSKI: All right. David Guggenheims Waiting for Superman looks at how the American public school system is failing its students and displays how reformers have attempted to [1], The film has earned both praise and negative criticism from commentators, reformers, and educators. BRZEZINSKI: Is that a fair shot, Randi? Yet instead of examining this critical issue objectively, the movie Waiting for "Superman" cites false statistics in their effort to scapegoat teachers, unfairly blaming them for all the failures of our urban schools. 100 percent of the kids pass the science regions. I know, but you didn't have enough money. And I always -- Im at screenings all across the country. /ExtGState << Go. /Resources << I think if we actually got to what constitutes a good teacher and had that kind of standard we'd all be in the same place on that and there are about 50 or 60 districts right now, I made a proposal in January about how to overhaul evaluation. SCARBOROUGH: Do you think he's going to do the right thing now that the teachers union is giving him a million dollars? /ArtBox [ 0 0 595.27600 841.89000 ] SCARBOROUGH: Thanks a lot, Davis, way to go, man. SCARBOROUGH: What have you learned since getting involved? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: So you think that most of the kids in D.C. are getting a crappy education right now? /CropBox [ 0 0 595.27600 841.89000 ] Somebody who's fighting for kids like Daisy is John Legend. >> I think he wants to do the right thing. Thats just one of the great things that we see. And Im not going to pretend that you can just come in and snap your fingers and things are going to get better overnight. You could fail those kids for another 20 years, everybody keeps their job, nobody gets the go. END VIDEO CLIP BRZEZINSKI: All right. /Contents [ 39 0 R 40 0 R 41 0 R 42 0 R 43 0 R 44 0 R 45 0 R 46 0 R ] It looks like we don't have any synopsis for this title yet. "[23], Author and academic Rick Ayers lambasted the accuracy of the film, describing it as "a slick marketing piece full of half-truths and distortions" and criticizing its focus on standardized testing. /ArtBox [ 0 0 595.27600 841.89000 ] As young as Bianca is, she too displays this look of defeat as her name is not called (Guggenheim 1:32:56). It's going to be mommy's job to get you another school that's better. But can we really get Geoffrey Canadas in every public high school across America? Will they give him a million dollars for re-election if he keeps you in your position? GUGGENHEIM: Weve won the lottery. BRZEZINSKI: Youre outnumbered. RHEE: I do. BRZEZINSKI: Why didn't you want her to go to a regular public school in your neighborhood? CANADA: The thing I think Chancellor Klein and Mayor Bloomberg have done, they really looked for people to come into the city who had a proven track record. Waiting for 'Superman' the title refers to a Harlem educators childhood belief that a superhero would fix the problems of the ghetto won an Audience Award at >> Stevenson feeds into Roosevelt, one of the worst-performing schools in Los Angeles. Ht6R*bs7n& Of course, Washington has problems going back decades. It just came out this week. WEINGARTEN: Look, we have schools in New York, like the school that Steve Barr and I run, which has a union contract, we're 100 percent of the kids path the math regions. You say no one wants lousy teachers but there are a lot of really lousy teachers who are protected by this current system. It's not about charter schools. JOE SCARBOROUGH: Good evening. SCARBOROUGH: First and foremost -- LEGEND: If we care about justice, if we care about equality in this country, we have to care about fixing education. GUGGENHEIM: The issue is not just lousy teachers. >> /T1_1 24 0 R By the time she leaves Stevenson, only 13 percent of her classmates will be proficient in math. SCARBOROUGH: Crying uncontrollably because it is unbelievable, some of the conditions that our kids are forced to learn in right now. If I have kids, I don't want kids to be in this environment. Even during the MSNBC town hall today, there were teachers who say I don't care about tenure. Our guests will include Governor Chris Christie, Newark Mayor Corey Booker and U.S. secretary of education Arne Duncan. Its so interesting you say that because Mika, Chris, our EP, myself, everybody thats seen this movie says first of all, they break down and cry at the end of this movie and then when they go home and they look at their children, children who can go to really great schools, they look at their own children differently. LEGEND: Well, it's been quite a learning experience because I get to meet great educators. After half a year of teaching, I talked to her yesterday, she had brought her kids a year -- more than a year and a half ahead. A good education, therefore, is not ruled out by poverty, uneducated parents or crime and drug-infested neighborhoods. Were here to talk about the movie, to talk about education. You cannot say we want more resources to go to kids when in fact in this city, Joel Klein is spilling $100 million a year to pay for teachers you saw it in the movie, who aren't actually teaching. We're also joined by Deborah Canny of the Harlem Village Academy. Let's go there and talk to the president of the American federation of teachers, Randi Weingarten. The filmmakers made sure to film how Nakia becomes increasingly more anxious and concerned as time passes during the lottery, but fewer spots become available and her daughters name has not been called (Guggenheim 1:32:49). Towards the end of the film, there is a segment that illustrates the charter school lottery as it takes place for different schools. GUGGENHEIM: And the stakes for them. /T1_1 20 0 R So look, all of us on this stage, whether it's Geoffrey or Michelle or Davis, myself, the two of you, we all care passionately about the children. Filmmaker Davis Guggenheim reminds us that education "statistics" have names: WebShop for waiting for superman documentary transcript filetype:lua at Best Buy. >> Nakia joins us here tonight. [2] The film criticizes the American public education system by following several students as they strive to be accepted into competitive charter schools such as KIPP LA Schools, Harlem Success Academy and Summit Preparatory Charter High School. It's about those kids. SCARBOROUGH: Why would you spend a million dollars to defeat a mayor? Yes, first or second grade skills. Because we do understand if we're going to fix this problem, we're going to have to figure out how to get you guys together and make this work. The film recognizes how the American public plays an important role in helping to accomplish the reform goal of making American public schools great. We're turning to you now. They want to know what good teaching looks like and they want to emulate it. SCARBOROUGH: John Legend, final thoughts? It is a revolution. John, tell us how you got involved in this. We could say to everyone in education we have to give a couple of more hours. SCARBOROUGH: I tell you what, that was the part of the movie where Daisy, you saw her crossing her fingers and write physically got nauseated. GLORIA: Im just so afraid for him. >> But I think it's quite frankly a little disingenuous for the union president to stand up and say we liked what Michelle was doing, we wanted it to continue to happen, when the national AFT poured $1 million into the campaign in Washington, D.C. a million dollars in a local mayoral race you know clearly sends a message that they didn't want things to continue as they were. We applaud everybody for joining us on this stage. 5 0 obj So even though we may disagree about that, what this film does, it creates a moment in time. Davis, god bless you. We decreased violent crimes that were happening in the schools. >> /T1_1 57 0 R SCARBOROUGH: It was about education. Sept. 23, 2010. Randi was talking about instead of focusing on bad teachers, focusing on good teachers. My kids have won the lottery. You are not exactly what some would consider to be a conservative filmmaker. WebThe documentary Waiting for Superman, directed by Davis Guggenheim, is a film that shows how school systems are today. WEINGARTEN: Theres lots of -- look. Seventy-eight percent of them, this is not our survey, this was their survey, said a union was absolutely essential to them to try and stop school politics or principal abuses. /T1_0 20 0 R >> Why? I knew what the final scene would look like and I still broke down three times. /Rotate 0 Though money doubled, reading and math scores have flat-lined. Michelle Rhee, the former chancellor of the Washington, D.C. public schools (the district with some of the worst-performing students at the time), is shown attempting to take on the union agreements that teachers are bound to, but suffers a backlash from the unions and the teachers themselves. >> RHEE: I don't think they are. If I don't, Ill just be with my friends. Educ 300: Education Reform, Past and Present, an undergraduate course with Professor Jack Dougherty at Trinity College, Hartford CT. David GuggenheimsWaiting for Supermanlooks at how theAmerican public school system is failing its students and displays how reformers have attempted to solve this problem. I think we all have to look in the mirror and say, what have we done wrong up until now and what do we need to do better? The attendance and the schools itself. RHEE: What I think it comes down to, people underestimate we did from the school system side everything we need to do. You have to live in the district. That is the problem. NAKIA: She felt it wasn't fair that other children were being picked and she was just as smart as they were and why not her. That means in the midterms. But, Mondello Have your mom and dad told you about the lottery? >> RHEE: Yes, that's right. What's Mayor Bloomberg doing right? Through the stories of five children who wanted to attend a charter school, the film shows how one child was accepted and another child was accepted from the wait list while three children were not accepted at all. (soundbite of film, "big george foreman: the miraculous story of the once and future heavyweight champion of the world") KHRIS DAVIS: (As George Foreman) Last time they saw me, I looked like Superman. RHEE: Were not going to be able to solve the problem going one city at a time. Davis Guggenheims Documentary, Waiting for Superman explores the corrupt American School system. SCARBOROUGH: Geoffrey Canada, some remarkable things are happening in Harlem. Waiting For Superman may refer to: Waiting for "Superman", a 2010 documentary. endobj NAKIA: The schools in my area don't measure up as far as the reading is concerned, the math is concerned. Final words with our panel, next after a short break. All we're going to do is pay good teachers more money. "Waiting for Superman," a fascinating new documentary, is drawing attention to the state of our public school, directed by Davis Guggenheim, who brought us DAISYS GATHER: Yes. [30] In Ayers' view, the "corporate powerhouses and the ideological opponents of all things public" have employed the film to "break the teacher's unions and to privatize education," while driving teachers' wages even lower and running "schools like little corporations. Now, a couple of years ago, an independent group called Ed Sector actually surveyed a whole bunch of teachers and asked teachers the question about whether they needed or wanted a union. /Resources << /Parent 1 0 R /Type /Page SCARBOROUGH: All right, Davis, Davis, you said at the beginning you didn't want to get involved in this project. /Rotate 0 /GS1 17 0 R LEGEND: Yes. BEGIN VIDEO CLIP: NAKIA: I grew up in the public school system. What's going on here? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Do you think she can do it? RHEE: First, I think I would be remiss if I did not point out to everybody that there's been a lot of talk about public schools, public schools. BRZEZINSKI: If you leave Washington, D.C. are you going to Newark? She was assigned in January. Is there any give here? 7 0 obj Throughout the documentary, different aspects of the American public education system are examined. Waiting for Superman. And it says that if all of us are actually committed to fixing this, we will follow the evidence of what works, follow it, be innovative, be creative but follow the evidence of what works and we will all work together to fix this so that every single child has access to a great public education, not by chance, not by privilege but by right. [31] The most substantial distortion in the film, according to Ravitch, is the film's claim that "70 percent of eighth-grade students cannot read at grade level," a misrepresentation of data from the National Assessment of Educational Progress. It is about working together to create problem solving contracts and ultimately, Michelle, it's not about you or I. One of them is Nakia. JOHN LEGEND, SONGWRITER: Well, it's an interesting story because I was making this album "Wake-Up." I went up to a school up there. /XObject << BRZEZINSKI: Okay. The contract says she has to go. What are your thoughts? I love teachers. Geoffrey Canada: One of the saddest days of my life was when my mother told me Superman did not exist. BRZEZINSKI: You also knew that a little girl like Daisy can be a vet or a doctor or anything she wants to be if she's given the tools to do it. "[7] On Metacritic it has a score of 81% based on reviews from 31 critics, indicating "universal acclaim". You tried to change things and chances are good, because of it, you're going to get fired. We can't achieve equality or humanity and justice for everybody if we can't make sure that every kid gets a good education. "[14] Geraldo Rivera praised the film for promoting discussion of educational issues. We need to do a lot more of what Debbie Kenny is doing in that school but we need to do whats going on in lots and lots and lots of public schools because at the end of the day, every single teacher I know wants to make a difference in the lives of kids. /T1_1 20 0 R /CropBox [ 0 0 595.27600 841.89000 ] Let's give five extra hours for all the teachers in America to help kids right now and have the unions lead this charge of saying this is an emergency, we need to help these kids. SCARBOROUGH: Hold on a second. SCARBOROUGH: Why is it -- [ applause ] why is it that you have an area like Washington, D.C. that is 12 percent proficient in math? /Resources << SCARBOROUGH: Right. PG. I know they are. I just think -- SCARBOROUGH: Do you really think he wants to the right thing? "[10] Joe Morgenstern, writing for The Wall Street Journal, gave the film a positive review writing, "when the future of public education is being debated with unprecedented intensity," the film "makes an invaluable addition to the debate. /CropBox [ 0 0 595.27600 841.89000 ] SCARBOROUGH: You were on the board for Harlem Village Academy. WEINGARTEN: We need to help them do that for all of our kids. 9 0 obj I went up there, Jeff Zucker pushed me to go up there one day. DAVIS GUGGENHEIM: No. They clearly illustrate that no matter the area, teachers are failing America's youth at an alarming rate.. Since charter schools do not operate with the same restrictions as public institutions, they are depicted as having a more experimental approach to educating students. Do you think it has characterized you fairly? What's the big takeaway from "Waiting For Superman"? << Waiting For Superman was more widely released than any other documentary, and among the highest-grossing documentaries of 2010. >> These are your schools, your communities. A teacher wants to stay. But this is the issue that I think Ive been hearing that I just want to get clear. I think sometimes there's a disconnect between them. ?zBzD%YC1_PVu,fkGsM'2Hnm^]6_1W|qpff&,+y cWoM~UNxa*_EE}=}z/P__~:Y)z `'4Q!-ccE"?6HD6JW (b]Jl BP> These students range in Kids coming into middle school and fifth grade with first grade reading abilities, leaving in eighth grade with a 100 percent proficiency, outscoring kids in Scarsdale, New York. We love good teachers. Because what is wrong with what he's saying? The video explores several of the problems within the system, and tells the personal stories of several families and communities who have been impacted and disadvantaged by the broken education system. What were your thoughts when the number did not come up? Are you feeling agreement? SCARBOROUGH: It really is. We have to fix this thing and it means the adults have to take leadership. /Parent 1 0 R Take a look. SCARBOROUGH: As far as -- well -- LEGEND: Why is there a cap? BRZEZINSKI: Why not inspire them with pay? We have to go to break right now. SCARBOROUGH: The nation's capital. And that is a concept that is so necessary. RHEE: You wake up every morning and you know that 46,000 kids are counting on you. Last Friday night I watched Davis Guggenheims new documentary, Teach, which was broadcast in on CBS.Guggenheim, you may recall, is the filmmaker who brought us Waiting For Superman, the shameless propaganda-fest that signaled the full-on nuclear stage of the corporate-driven war on public education (also known as the By showing its audience that even charter schools close their doors to some students, which them forces these students to attendfailing public schools, the video illustrates howthere are still flaws to the American public school system and challenges that need to be addressed. So it's important to understand how this is locked down here in D.C. and in New York. This is where the work gets tough, because innovation, this is about innovation. We increased student achievement levels. The union leaderships could take this on as a platform and say this is something we're going to commit to and give our membership behind this so we can show progress in taking on these issues. Didn't get an answer on that. Why not? I mean I think that's what this whole debate is about in many ways. We have to take ownership. DAISYS FATHER: Come on, Daisy, cross your fingers. That was teachers talking to each other and talking to the world about what teachers needed. /GS0 47 0 R /BleedBox [ 0 0 595.27600 841.89000 ] Because politically, these -- the things that we were doing, closing down schools, firing teachers, moving principals, those were not politically popular things to do. Be the first to contribute. BRZEZINSKI: On Tuesday morning at 8:00 a.m. from this very stage, General Colin Powell and his wife on "MORNING JOE." UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You see the cages up here. I said what I if I made a different kind of movie from a parents' point of view? At the end of the film, there is writing that states: The problem is complex but the steps are simple. /MediaBox [ 0 0 595.27600 841.89000 ] These are our communities. << Let's do this right now and let's look at the best contract in the nation in terms of eliminating ineffective teachers and let's make that the standard across America. /Rotate 0 But I think we have to get a layer deeper than just the platitudes that remain on the stage. BRZEZINSKI: When the number came down, what was that telling your daughter, what was that telling you? Find low everyday prices and buy online for delivery or in-store pick-up We'll hear from the audience as well. SCARBOROUGH: Michelle, let me ask you this.
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